Nude elegance

There is no doubt in my mind that elegance is derived from an ultimate sexual goal. Elegance is seduction and this is why we ladies (and gay guys) are so much interested in being elegant: because of your simple successful sexual strategy (impregnating as many fertile women as possible), you guys are interested so much in looks.

This does not mean that, when I'm putting lipstick on, I'm hoping to bed some random guy. Ask all women and most will say that they want to be elegant for themselves, not for men. And they are right, being elegant makes me feel good, but this is the proxy, not the ultimate goal. When we eat, we don't necessarily think of not dying (although if you are very much into healthy eating you likely do that). We mostly eat because it feels good. When a lion satisfies one of his ladies who happens to be fertile (and he does this 20+ times a day), none of them thinks of those lovely little cubs which will result (in fact, they don't even know that there is relation between sex and cubs), they do that because it feels good. Proxy goals rule.

And while I'm at it, I'll go the whole nine yards and anger all naturists by saying that both the interest and the disgust in nudism also have an ultimate sexual motive. Those sexual bits are traditionally covered to make them less available, more private. Now they are in the open and we enjoy looking at them or being looked at. Again, this does not mean that I want to play with those exposed bits, just that I find nudists more open, less secretive and nicer to look at (and not wearing wet bits of fabric is so much better!). But even esthetic pleasure has an ultimate reason in reproductive success. It's as if our genes remote control us and give us proxy reasons to multiply them. For this we need to survive (hence fear, hatred and pleasure in eating), to reproduce (hence pleasure in seeing a nice body, which signals fertility), and, at least for us ladies, to be able to raise the offspring (so thanks but no thanks guys, we typically won't sleep with all of you who ask, but if you seem to be smart, resourceful and very much in love with us you will be sexier in your eyes).

But let's go back to elegance. Can and should you be elegant also in the nude? I created this group (deleted twice and re-created by Jeanne) so I think you can and I think there is no shame in doing so, but I may be in a small minority on this. I often wear nice hats, fancy shades and some makeup and perfume, even if I wear nothing else. Plus, very often, even my beach slippers have a bit of heels. Not that I need the extra leg length, but I'm so used to them and they make me walk nicer and feel better about myself.

I also come from a dancing background, I did some ballet in my childhood and turned towards competitive ballroom dancing in my teens. And in all modesty I had some success despite clear physical handicaps (I was too tall and my boobs were too big). I already had C cups at 10 or 11 when I abandoned ballet - you can possibly get away with those in ballroom dancing if you are very fast (yes, ballroom dancing is very sportsy and I was regional champion in sprinting), because this dance is about sexiness, but you can't pretend to be that ineffable, weightless fairy in ballet when you are 6 feet tall and own D cups...

So my dancing background makes me walk with my back straight, my chest out and my chin high. I don't normally slouch at a table, on a couch or in an arm chair. It has become natural for me. I also walk and move, I am told, with some elegance, and this is valable whether I'm wearing sneakers and a short, a sexy club dress or just a bit of perfume and some body jewelry (btw, as a follow-up to a previous post, I decided to get a navel piercing).

Now, I can imitate a guy, slouch a bit, walk with feet wide apart instead of on a straight line, rock my whole body from left to right instead of swinging just my hips... But is this important to be accepted as a nudist?

One thing which I have been asked quite often and surprisingly also when nude, is if I am an actress. And only occasionally this was a pickup line. Guys, don't use it, if you absolutely have to, I have some decent experience with pickup lines so I can give you a good dozen which work a lot better. Now, they will not guarantee that I'll be in your bed that very night but at least they will make me smile and more likely to want to chat with you. And we'll take it from there. You see, being asked if I'm an actress tells me that I am seen as theatrical, pretentious, mannered...

So if I wear nice shades and hats (nice without being excessively fancy), a few rings in my ears and on my fingers (just a few), a waist and an ankle chain plus a bit of heels, do I look provocative? Affected? Ok, I may also mobilise a bit more joints when I move than men do, does this make me look lascivious?

This is a real question. I feel better about myself when I am a bit elegant, even in the nude. I also likely move a bit more elegantly than many other women, but this is natural, because of my dancing, I'm not doing it on purpose. Should I change this? Wear baseball caps, no makeup or body jewelry, put my hands on my hips when speaking with someone and try to move like a man to be accepted as a real nudist? Again, despite it's ultimate sexual goal, elegance feels so good to me and I swear I think of nothing sexual when I wear those hats. Should I ditch them and the shades, see-through beach dressed and heeled beach shoes? Should I force myself to slouch a bit? Maybe I should - it would be less agreeable to me but wearing no swimsuit remains the thing to do when at the beach. I could maybe reserve more elegance for when I'm fully dressed? Or should I also wear baggy jeans and dresses too? Plus, I'm 40, is my demeanour becoming ridiculously inappropriate for my age? My body has not gone through major changes yet (I have my quarterly pics to prove it, but this may be for another topic) and I am told that I look younger, but should I start acting my age and let elegance to young girls?

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Mm, elegance! Can it be a state of mind too? A confidence in the nude giving a degree of elegance? I think you're attitide will help here too... the way you carry yourself, this as much as any accessory added to enhance the effect.

Rx

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I believe we all should be true to who we are, how we are. Is it not what makes us all unique? When everything is the same, things are almost sterile. Be content and proud of who you are, for no one but yourself. That is living!

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Richie, the way I move is not because I am confident in the nude (I am even more confident when dressed and I do the same) it's because of my dance training. I saw videos, I could show some. It's not only the way I hold my head or I walk. A simple gesture like giving my hand for a handshake or raising a glass looks a bit affected: the arm/elbow move first, slower than necessary, then the forearm/wrist, then the fingers/hand. Hard to explain.

Yes, I know the theory of be yourself and I think it's wrong. We are social animals and need to adapt to our society. We learn, we adapt, we evolve. I "am" not the same person I was at 5, 15 or 25. I am confident in the nude, but I will not go nude in the city center (ok, there were a couple of dares but that was because each time I was with a couple of girlfriends and this small society was more important for me than the big one...). I speak differently in my professional life, with my friends, on my social media, and here. Last year I spent two weeks walking through Rome, 8-10h a day under 36 Celsius and a scorching sun. And I did this not as I would have wanted, in a very light and short summer dress, but in a very conservative one, which would reveal neither my knees nor the fact that I was braless. And this was because in Rome there is a magnificent cathedral at basically every street corner and it is not good form to visit them dressed like you are going at the beach.

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I agree Be yourself cant all the time, society plays a major role in what is appropriate and when. Many factors influence who and how we are, as well as the natural changes that happen as we mature. Elegance is noticeable regardless of clothes or not. Molding to society and be you is always a balance.

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